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Q: I'm a 64-year-old grandma who messed up bad. My money was in the Vanguard 500 index fund, but in August everything was going south. So I moved my money to a money market account. Now stocks are doing well again, and I have no idea how to get back into the Vanguard 500 without losing a lot of money.

Also, in 2000 I sold my house and invested quite a bit in stocks like Cisco Systems, CMGI, Motorola, Oracle, etc. I'm still holding them, thinking that is the only way to get my money back. I'm still $35,000 in the hole. Any suggestions? -- B.H., Austin, Texas

A: One of the most painful exercises an investor can do is to compare the performance of an investment that has been sold with the investment that replaced it. Often, the sold investment will do better.

The basic idea of index investing is that you can't guess which stocks to buy or whether the market is going up or down. You can only be fairly certain that you are likely to get a good return over a long period of time.

I think you need to think about the decisions you made differently. First, you did not lose money when you sold your S&P 500 fund. You lost an opportunity to make MORE money than you made in the money market fund. Losing an opportunity isn't the same as losing money.

My suggestion: Buy the index fund again and pretend that you are now living on a desert island, far removed from our reliable sources of worry.

One of the best reasons to own index funds is that you don't have to worry about the fate of individual companies. The value of your stocks is their price today. Not what you paid for them. Not what you hope they will be worth tomorrow. Just their price today.  

Every day we choose the horse we're going to ride. If you choose individual horses, you'll have a lot of exciting races and you'll lose a lot. If you own the track, you'll enjoy all the races. And you have a really good chance of making some money.

  

Q: I have a fair amount of cash waiting for a market drop. I'm fascinated with the Couch Potato portfolio, but should I continue to wait for a drop, or would you advise investing in all, or some, of the funds now?

I'm comfortably retired. My husband has a substantial portfolio, but I have a relatively small one that I enjoy working with. I do not consider it "play money," by the way. Is the Couch Potato suitable as is for investors in a higher income bracket? -- K.M., Franklin, Tenn.   

A: Lots of people are waiting for the market to drop. Unfortunately, waiting for the opportune time doesn't work for most people. When the market does drop, they will worry that it will go lower. So they'll wait some more. Then the market will pop upward. They won't believe the rise is real. Later, they will kick themselves for not having invested at the bottom. So they will wait for prices to drop again.

Waiting for a big market low is a good way to avoid "pulling the trigger" and making a commitment.

That's why I think we need to select an asset allocation and invest. If it makes you feel better to invest over a period of six to 12 months, then invest over a period of six to 12 months.

Whatever you do, the only thing certain is that you will worry. You will have misgivings regardless of what happens. One of the reasons equity returns are higher than CD returns, long term, is this uncertainty.

The basic Couch Potato portfolio is suitable for investors who want to have minimal expenses and returns that are superior to most of the managed competition. If domestic equities return 10 percent to 11 percent (dividends and price appreciation) and domestic fixed-income securities return about 5 percent, your long-term return should be close to 8 percent a year.

Year by year, however, there is a good chance that you will lose money in some years and make a bundle in others.

  

Comments

 

ABModerator03 said:

Hi B.H., K.M.,

I am in a similar situation. During 2006 I became concerned that market valuations were getting too high, and shifted my asset allocation from 70% stocks / 30% fixed to 30% stocks / 70% fixed. It has been difficult for me emotionally (much more difficult than I thought) to watch the current market move ever higher. In retrospect, I think it would have been less stressful for me to have tilted my portfolio to perhaps 60% stocks / 40% fixed.

My current plan is to dollar cost average back into a 60%/40% stock/fixed allocation over the next year. However, I still think there is merit in looking at market valuations. Imho, Dr. John Hussman provides good weekly information regarding market valuations (see http://hussmanfunds.com), and might be able to provide information on when it might be more profitable to re-enter the market (or tilt your portfolio toward a higher stock allocation). Some other interesting white papers on market valuation and stock market performance can be found at http://www.crestmontresearch.com/pdfs/Stock%20Retirement%20SWR.pdf and http://www.econ.yale.edu/%7Eshiller/online/jpmalt.pdf

Regards, Rich

  

From Scott Burns:

Agreed, the sources you cite are good reading. Valuations are always worth observing, but seldom worth acting upon. In any case, modest changes in allocation are less likely to be traumatizing than major changes. What we need to remember is that most of the time we will be wrong when we think the market is too high or too low.
February 1, 2007 4:57 PM

About scottb

Scott Burns has covered the changing world of personal finance and investments for nearly 40 years. Today, he ranks as one of the five most widely read personal finance writers in the country. Scott began his career as a newspaper columnist at the Boston Herald in 1977 where he was also the financial editor. Nationally syndicated in 1981 and now distributed by Universal Press, the column appears in newspapers from Boston to Seattle. In 1985 he joined the staff of the Dallas Morning News where his column quickly became one of the most widely read features in the paper. He left the Dallas Morning News in 2006 to become one of the founders of AssetBuilder and its Chief Investment Strategist. Burns is a graduate of Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1962). He has written four books, including "The Coming Generational Storm" (MIT Press, 2004) coauthored with economist Laurence J. Kotlikoff. His fourth book, also coauthored with Kotlikoff, will be published this spring by Simon & Schuster. "Spend Til' the End" uses consumption smoothing to demonstrate the errors of conventional financial planning. His business experience includes working as a staffer for a major consulting company and service as a director and audit chairman of a NASDAQ listed manufacturing company. He and his wife divide their time between Dallas and Santa Fe, New Mexico.
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